by: Michael Steffes
The Tacoma News Tribune's, Seahawk Insider, has a post up saying Frank Hughes called in and said the Hawks will NOT be getting a compensatory pick this year.
If you have been following this blog, you know that I expected that there was no way they were going to get one, despite Tim Ruskell saying he thought so. It just didn't make any sense, we signed way more big free agent deals last year compared to the free agents who we let leave. Not to mention that Patrick Kerney, one of the signings, went to a Pro Bowl, which canceled out Ken Hamlin, who also went to the Pro Bowl, leaving. As many of you know, the shear numbers of players going vs coming in, their contract amounts, and post season honors are the three criteria that go into the compensatory pick formula.
I do, however, expect that we will get a couple of late round compensatory picks next year.
Here is a breakdown of the picks awarded if you are interested, credit to Chris Brown at Inside the Bills.END
In an unrelated story...I just came across this article with plenty of quotes from Jonathan Stewart. He says..."Just to get the record straight, the recovery isn't 4-6 months. It is 3-4 months. I will be ready for training camp."
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no picks for 49ers or AZ and one for st louis. Good news!
ReplyDeleteOF COURSE just add this to the long list of SHIT SANDWICHES we as a fanbase have had to eat for the longest time.
ReplyDeleteNot sure about that Dirty Hawk, the Hawks have benefited from compensation picks many times in the past, most recently taking Leroy Hill with a third rounder compensation pick, the highest round in which they are awarded.
ReplyDeleteThe team opted for players such as Deon Grant, Brian Russell, and Patrick Kerney instead of compensation picks. It was a fair trade.
Why did the Ravens get a 3rd rd. compensatory pick? I don't quite understand how they are handed out, sorry not terribly up-to-date, I guess.
ReplyDeleteSo if you trade and draft well then you get no compensation? SO the looser GM's in the league get rewarded? Or does it also have to do with coaching turnovers, when a team changes coaches it gets more picks? If these are true, from what I can gather...then why didn't the Dolphins get 4 and the Falcons 3 along with the Rams. Why the Bengals and Ravens? Doesn't make much sense.
Okay, I figured out it mostly has to do with the Free Agency. Interesting. Is it really fair?
ReplyDeleteNot surprised by this at all, I always thought you were correct in your analysis, Michael...it just didn't seem likely that we'd get a compensatory pick this year. It didn't add up.
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Christopher,
ReplyDeleteWho knows if it's fair? I don't think anyone really knows how it all works : ) Ruskell was even quoted as saying he didn't really understand it.
You're right, it does have to do with comparing the free agents that a team lost against the free agents that they gained.
-Tom
I think in our case, we gained Kerney, Russel and Grant...those were our biggest FA aquisitions. We lost Hamlin, Herndon, and Wistrom...those were our big losses, though I'm not sure if Wistrom and Herndon count since they were cut while still under contract. Michael, do you know if they count in the equation? Is there anyone I'm leaving off here?
ReplyDeleteI might be missing some players that factored into the equation, but if you just consider these additions and losses, we came out ahead, with better players. Not sure if their actual performance is accounted for, but we lost a pro-bowler (Hamlin) and gained a pro-bowler (Kerney), and we lost two other starters, while gaining two new starters.
It would seem that we gained more in free agency last year than we lost, or at least broke even...therefore, we get no compensation.
-Tom
Strange things...you'd think that coaches would be informed or that there would be a formula, because it opens the door for cheating if the NFL wants too--at the highest rank.
ReplyDeleteIt is starting to stink in their headquarters. No wonder Mike Holmgren didn't go to the meetings this year. The Patriots scandal--that information should have been shared with the whole league. I still believe Belichick should have been banned from coaching at least 2 years.
btw - in my previous post, I am assuming that only significant FA losses and aquisitions are considered. I'm not sure if that assumption is correct, or if perhaps backups and 2nd and 3rd tier free agents just don't count enough in the equation to make much of a difference.
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Christopher,
ReplyDeleteI agree, the whole "compensatory pick" business is not very transparent at all. And considering that some teams get as high as a 3rd round pick for compensation, we're talking about some serious stuff, man. A 3rd round pick given to a team that doesn't deserve it is a very big deal, IMO. I guess we can only hope that it's all legit and that the equation is just too complex for our football minds to enterpret : )
-Tom
Tom- No, Herndon and Wistrom wouldn't count. Only players who reach the end of their contract. Hence we won't have Mike Wahle count against us next year.
ReplyDeleteThe contract usually has to exceed a certain amount, I think the cutoff was around 750K. Stevens would have counted but he signed for too little. DD Lewis may have counted. Hamlin counted, but that didn't add up to Kerney, Grant, and Russell, two of whom got BIG bonuses, raising the compensation counted in the first year.
It is only FA additions and losses that count. Herndon and Wistrom would not count as losses since they were cut. Just like Shaun won't count in our favor next year if/when he is cut. But on the plus side, next year Wahle won't count against us since he was cut by Carolina, and we'll get credit for losing Niko and Bentley(may they have pro-bowl seasons).
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Oops, posted at the same time. Michael, Will Hackett count or was that contract too small to be in our favor?
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Cool, thanks for the clarification, ya'll.
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If I interpret this correctly, we should hope Hackett gets voted to the Pro Bowl next year since that's a post-season award. It seems that would help in a comp pick situation?
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It would have been better if he signed a deal worth 5 million per, but since he didn't, yes, vote for him for the Pro Bowl, along with Niko, Bentley, Ellis Wymns, and Chuck Darby!
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ReplyDeleteYeah, and we should also hope that Kouts gets a starting job in Denver and performs well...same for Bently with the Texans. I'm pretty sure Josh Brown counts, too, but I'd prefer not to root for him.
It looks like we should get at least one compensatory pick next year, though.
-Tom
Michael,
ReplyDeleteDoes Josh Brown count? I don't want to root for him.
-Tom
Josh Brown is probably the biggest # on the list, if he goes to the pro bowl it could get us up to a 4th rounder.
ReplyDeleteTom, by my count we should be looking at three or four picks in the laster rounds.
ReplyDeleteCool! 3 or 4 late picks would be great.
ReplyDeleteBut I'm still not rooting for Brown : ) I hope he pulls a Brandon Marshall right in the middle of the season, except I want him to slip on a pile of his own cash instead of a McDonald's bag.
-Tom